Posted: 10:24 am Monday, July 28th, 2014

Former Volunteers: Good riddance to Lane Kiffin, Derek ‘Doolittle’ 

By Andy Johnston

Former Tennessee players are happy that Derek Dooley (above) and Lane Kiffin are no longer coaching there. (AP)

Former Tennessee players are happy that Derek Dooley (above) and Lane Kiffin are no longer coaching there. (AP)

Several former Tennessee players got together in Chattanooga over the weekend to help at one of their former teammate’s football camps. The group included Al Wilson, Eric Westmoreland, Troy Fleming, Gerald Riggs Jr., DeAngelo Lloyd, Jabari Davis, Steven Marsh, Corey Larkins and Keyon Whiteside, who played for former coach Phillip Fulmer.

As expected, they had a lot of great things to say about Fulmer in this article in the Chattanooga Times Free Press, not so much for the two guys — Lane Kiffin (2009) and Derek Dooley (2010-12) — who followed him.

Why? Here’s how Tennessee finished under Kiffin and Dooley:

  • 2009 — 7-6, 4-4 in SEC
  • 2010 — 6-7, 3-5
  • 2011 — 5-7, 1-7
  • 2012 — 5-7, 1-7

They like current coach Butch Jones, who also struggled in his first season (5-7, 2-6), but signed a huge and highly regarded recruiting class.

Troy Fleming (RB from 1999-2003): “With Coach Jones, when you walk into the facility now it’s like you never left. The guys who have worked around the program for years are at ease now, which tells you things are good again. The biggest thing about Coach Jones is he actually does his job. Unlike that guy we call Derek Doolittle, who really did very little.

Al Wilson (LB from 1995-98): “I really don’t even want to say the names of the two guys who were there between Coach Fulmer and Coach Jones. They don’t deserve to have their names mentioned with Tennessee football. As somebody who went 45-5 while I was at UT, that’s a place I care a lot about and I’m just glad that there’s somebody in charge again who gets it and who wants to be there and take the program back to where it was and where it should be.

Corey Larkins (RB from 2000-04): I want to see some guys with some fight and defend the program. That mentality came from the guy we had before Coach Jones. Derek Dooley was a loser. He’ll always be a loser and he rubbed off on the program and created a losing attitude.”

116 comments
greenedefense
greenedefense

I liked rocky flop better when they had Dooley

tunjie06
tunjie06

These guys serious coming off a 5-7 record? Can't wait for them to chime in again when UT barely gets 6 wins. Poor UT. 

Remarkable3
Remarkable3

Somewhere Barbara Dooley is getting ready to defend her son against all the "mean" people in this world.

DIT
DIT

What a bunch of butt-hurt philbillies

Armydawg
Armydawg

Tennessee? Never heard of it.

BCW1
BCW1

What about comments from players that played for Dooley and Kiffin? These guys obvisously have a soft spot for Fulmer who did a great job.

LostGoat
LostGoat

butch will get fired in about 2 years after a bunch of losses---will UT hire back fulmer?  he needs a job.

Buzz-Off
Buzz-Off

The real "losers" are the Vol alumni who played a role in destroying the program by firing Fulmer!!!

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Larkins is an idiot. Derek Dooley is no loser. Hey Larkins, what have you accomplished? Dooley was left with a mess as a result of Kiffin. He did not have the tools to turn around the program. Does that make him a loser? Hardly. He is a great assistant with a friggin' law degree. Match that up with your degree? Coach Fulmer was a great head coach, no doubt. But he was never stuck with no talent. Maybe Larkins in bitter over that 1-4 record versus UGA during his five years (lone 2004 win was a fluke) as well as the Dooley/UGA connection. UT/UGA rivalry is heating up!

10Dawgs
10Dawgs

Trashing former coaches. Really?!?! Stay classy Volley!


Dsyelxia
Dsyelxia

Here’s how Tennessee finished under Jones:

  • 2013 — 5-7, 2-6
  • 2014 prediction — 5-7, 2-6 (see below)

Utah State - W
Arkansas State - W
at Oklahoma - L
at Georgia - L
Florida - L
Chattanooga - W
at Ole Miss - L
Alabama - L
at South Carolina - L
Kentucky - W
Missouri - L
at Vanderbilt - W


They'll be singing a different tune after a couple more 5-7 seasons.

largeb
largeb

Who are these players? Tennessee has a football team? I thought they played two hand touch up there.

Brewmaster1960
Brewmaster1960

So a "loser" is immediately hired to coach wide receivers for the Dallas Cowboys ? He never fielded a talented enough team to judge his ability as a head coach. 

ECDawg7
ECDawg7

Virtually every UT alum and fan wanted Fulmer out.  Before that, they hired the incompetent Hamilton.

They deserve what they got......

te29wr
te29wr

After Kiffin no one wanted the job Some of these guys were the ones that wanted Fulmer fired

LostGoat
LostGoat

UT should sue mike hamilton for negligence after the two disasters in hiring kiffin and dooley---what a joke! 

Whiskeypapa
Whiskeypapa

Tennessee -almost- dodged a bullet -- it's own athletic director, Mike Hamilton.  If he hadn't totally panicked over attendance and had given Coach Fulmer a chance to create a new formula, UT would not have sunk to its current low state.  Recall that Coach Fulmer had signed Tajh Boyd.  How much better would the program been with him there?  Kiffin told him there was no place for him at UT.  So he went to Clemson.  The reason the AD panicked was because he was basically a fund raiser and facilities improvement guy.  He had no idea how to be an AD.  But Neyland Stadium looks like the Taj Mahal.  Geez, if Fulmer had stayed, it might have become the 'Tajh Mahal'.  But I digress.  Anyway, idiot Hamilton had no idea how to actually do his job.  When the attendance didn't support his grandiose but ultimately peripheral schemes, he let Fulmer go.


Walt UT '81



WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@Buzz-Off Fulmer got lazy and ran the program into the dirt. Go check the records. 

Saban basically got him fired with the beatings. 

Personally I wish he was still there. I loved Saban kicking his fat boy butt.  

Iluvnutella
Iluvnutella

@Chuck_UGA  check ur Dooley stats......he issa .500 coach EVERYWHERE he has been. He is a frump riding on his dads good name.

ConnieJoneloro
ConnieJoneloro

@Chuck_UGA But that one lone loss was big!  It cost UGA a national championship opportunity. That was a good team.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@10Dawgs I think you have a lot of nerve. 

Ga still trashes Ray Goff. 

And you know, Goff never wore his religion on his sleeve.

He is a true Christian. 


RockyTopp
RockyTopp

@Dsyelxia  Since you are dyslexic, I will agree with you. 7-5 sound about right. I GUARANTEE Tennessee will beat the **** out of thUGA. I will be at the game and when the final seconds tick away on a Tennessee win, I will rush the field and take a big whizz on the G.

RockyTopp
RockyTopp

@Brewmaster1960 Doofus Dooley has 2 things going for him. 1. His last name 2. His superbly groomed hair. That is it.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@ECDawg7 Damn I hate to agree with a Ga fan. But you are right. 

Basically the program was so down, Saban wouldn't have been able to save that mess. 

SlawDawg
SlawDawg

@BrownianMotion Agree. Hamilton should be hung on the rack. He set UT back about 5-7 years with those 2 bonehead mistakes. I will give him credit for whacking Fat Phil.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@Whiskeypapa Love your name man. Don't agree with your post, but it is very thought out.

Keep up the good work. 

SlawDawg
SlawDawg

@Whiskeypapa Walt....you old son of a gun. I remember you from GoVolsXtra in Knox Vegas. As usual, I will disagree with you regarding Fulmer. He got lazy and complacent. Without Cutcliffe, Fulmer was nothing. Remember Dave Clawson? Well Walt, its now 2014 and we can play the "IF" game until the cows come home. Yep, Mike Hamilton screwed us big time. But Butch Jones is now the man and I think he will get it done! GO VOLS!

RockyTopp
RockyTopp

@WhiskeyBreath @Buzz-Off  Whiskey....you are spot on about the Great Pumpkin. Don't try to tell these redneck thUGA fans anything....they are to dim to comprehend. It wasn't just Alabubba that caused his demise. He just got lazy and complacent and has admitted as much. Butch Jones will be a thorn in the LegHumpers side for a looooooooong time to come. GOOOO VOLS!!!

Ihateorange
Ihateorange

@Iluvnutella @Chuck_UGA  I have to admit I was a bit surprised when the Vols hired him, I thought they could do better given the history of the program, but I guess they wanted to take a chance, they obviously thought he was an "up and comer" at the time.

JackPod
JackPod

@RockyTopp @Dsyelxia  Go ahead bozo. An arrest for indecent exposure will cost you plenty in the real world where employers will not hire someone who committed a perverted act. Perhaps that doesn't matter to you. Your welfare payments will not be affected.

Ihateorange
Ihateorange

@RockyTopp @Dsyelxia the new UT song (insert appropriate curse words instead of what I put)    Rocky flopp you never meant, one darned thing to meeeee.  ____ off rocky flopp, go to heck tennessee

Ihateorange
Ihateorange

@RockyTopp @Dsyelxia  hahahaha  Hey Rocky Flopp -   first the vols will get crushed in Athens, second if your slimy ___ steps one foot on the field you will get your skull caved in with a few nightsticks, but go for it, we could use the entertainment. In fact, that might actually increase your IQ (certainly couldnt hurt since I think you a about a 0 right now)

JaySly
JaySly

@RockyTopp @Dsyelxia the dogs will beat tenn like a rented mule--this will be a beatdown--richt will really run it up good in the second half.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Tennessee has no chance at UGA, not a bit. Gurley and Marshall will run for 300 yards. UT lost their entire OL and DL from what my UT friends have told me. Georgia's D is loaded, and UT has very young backs and receivers with an inexperienced line. How will UT slow the top offense in the SEC? Not a chance. UGA will not be coming off an emotional, exhausting game like they were last season and in 2004. They will be focused. Georgia 45, Tennessee 17.

LHardingDawg
LHardingDawg

You may beat the dogs this year in Athens, but I can guarantee you that the field you play on will have grass and not be sand painted green. The field last year in Knoxville was in terrible condition. No wonder we had so many players get hurt.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@RockyTopp @Dsyelxia

Yeah, you probably would do something dumb like that, which pretty much fits the mold for you and your feller Vols. But the more significant question for you here is, will you be back on this blog after your boys lose to UGA for the FIFTH year in a row?

I think we all know the answer to that one.

Brewmaster1960
Brewmaster1960

That's 2 more things than you have going for you .

Whiskeypapa
Whiskeypapa

@SlawDawg @Whiskeypapa  Coach Fulmer had the Vols in the SECCG less than a year before he was let go.  Hamilton panicked.  It wasn't - as I said 500 times probably on Govols.com - that Coach Fulmer had gotten so bad, it was that the rest of the SEC had improved.


It is certainly true that when Coach Cutcliffe left, there was a void in the formula.  Coach Fulmer deserved one more year to fix it, and idiot fans -like you-  were part of the reason he didn't get it.


Walt UT '81

Ihateorange
Ihateorange

@LHardingDawg  What do you expect for UT ?  The rest of the week the female students graze on the field.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Walt, I agree with you. So do many other long-time SEC fans. Fulmer was prematurely let go. Sure, the surrounding programs got better, but Fulmer was good for solid winning seasons and got everything out of his talent. He definitely was NOT lazy. He deserved better....he certainly earned it!

SlawDawg
SlawDawg

@Whiskeypapa @SlawDawg  WaltNoBalls....you are the frikin idiot. Fulmer ain't coming back. Did you not take notice that NOT ONE other school offered the Great Pumpkin a coaching job once he was canned? I know you have a man-crush on him but let it go WhiskeyBreath. Phat Phil deserved to be canned...go strap on a Depends and have some dinner.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@Chuck_UGA Go check out his last recruiting classes.

He might have recruited 11 or 12 players his last couple of years. An those guys were so so. Saban went in his state

and got the few good players. Saban buried him.  

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