Posted: 11:15 am Wednesday, August 20th, 2014

Jimbo Fisher: ACC had better year than SEC in 2013 

By Andy Johnston

FSU coach Jimbo Fisher said the ACC had a better year than the SEC in 2013. (AP photo)

FSU coach Jimbo Fisher said the ACC had a better year than the SEC in 2013. (AP photo)

The ACC was SEC-ond to none last season, according to Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher.

Fisher, who led the Seminoles to the national championship with a last-second win over Auburn said: “No conference has ever had as dominant a year as the ACC had last year.”

Fisher said that and other comments about his team, Jameis Winston and the two rival conferences during an interview with Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman that aired on FOX Sports 1 on Tuesday night.

Comparing the ACC and SEC, Fisher said the ACC had more award winners, and then added this:

“Eleven (ACC) teams had winning records and went to bowl games. (The ACC) won the national championship, won another BCS game, and you look at the top 150 players (in the NFL draft), it’s ACC 32, SEC 26. We actually had better players. I think getting that marketed out is a critical thing, and I think it’s just a matter of knowledge and getting people educated.”

To double check:

There were 13 ACC players picked in the fourth round, which sent it to the front. Two more ACC players were taken before the 150th pick, which came in the fifth round, so Fisher’s math was off by two.

Ten SEC players were taken in the fifth round, to push it back in the lead.

As for a national championship repeat this year, Fisher said: “You’ve got to have that attitude of domination to be able go forward. From that standpoint, we’re not finished.We want to continue to have this feeling. We want to continue to play great football.”

113 comments
KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

All he did was promote the ACC's success.  Like no other conference has ever won as many national awards in one season nor put as many teams in bowl games.  Face it, florida and tennessee suck lately and that brings the SEC down.  The SEC top teams (Bama and Auburn) both lost bowl games as did UGA.

greenedefense
greenedefense

All Fish is doing is pouring gas on the fire! The SEC will prove him wrong! 

greenedefense
greenedefense

SEC is the clear front runner with the acc, pac 12, big 10 and big 12 bringing up the rear!

greenedefense
greenedefense

What he really mean't was " The ACC conference has never had as dominant a year as 2013 ".

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

The SEC is arguably the best conference, but it isn't head and shoulders above others despite what ESPN shovels.....and you can't use the tired argument, 'they beat up on each other' because these are lopsided losing records and consider the SEC does not play each other on the bowl games.  And only 2 of 14 teams have winning records vs Top 10 teams.

"The most accurate gauge if you're tracking wins against ranked opponents is to add up those wins against teams that finish the season ranked in the final polls. We at the SEC blog have done that over the last three seasons, and some of the results are telling. "

Only three SEC teams over the past three seasons have finished above .500 against teams that finished the season ranked nationally. In addition to South Carolina, Alabama is 8-4 during that stretch and LSU 9-5.


Below are the records for all 14 SEC teams over the past three seasons against teams that finished the season nationally ranked in one of the final polls. In parentheses are the records against top-10 foes.

1. South Carolina: 12-3, .800 (5-2)
2. Alabama: 8-4, .667 (4-4)
3. LSU: 9-5, .643 (6-5)


4. Texas A&M: 5-10, .333 (1-6)
5. Georgia: 5-11, .312 (2-9)
6. Florida: 5-12, .294 (3-7)
7. Auburn: 4-13, .235 (3-8)
8. Missouri: 3-12, .200 (0-8)
9. Arkansas: 2-11, .154 (1-8)
10. Ole Miss: 2-15, .118 (0-9)
10. Tennessee: 2-15, .118 (1-12)
12. Vanderbilt: 0-12, .000 (0-8)
13. Kentucky: 0-13, .000 (0-8)
14. Mississippi State: 0-15, .000 (0-9)

So tell me again how good Miss St, Ole Miss, Arky, etc...are...

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

The SEC is the best conference, the gap simply isn't as wide as the media and SEC would have you believe.  Don't believe me, ask Oklahoma and Auburn.  Ask TAMU and Johnny Football if Duke sucks.  Ask UGA if Clemson sucks.  Ask Nebraska what they think after the Gator Bowl.



LEE3333
LEE3333

I have always liked Jimbo, but he is getting on my last nerve lately.  He won the NC game with 13 secs left, its not like FSU destroyed the competition.  Add to that, the ACC Champ game featured Duke and FSU.  I like David Cutcliffe, but come on it was still Duke.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

One season does not make a change in the hierarchy. SEC is everyone's daddy, and nothing is going to change. FSU will NOT win the NC this season, nor will any other ACC team. Maryland, stupid move (by the way) leaving the ACC.

Bronte
Bronte

with their easy schedule, fsu should run the table, win the acc easily and make the final 4.  fsu v. bama for the title---fsu should win by 6+==too much talent on offense for bama's average D to handle.  

Football2014
Football2014

When you have the TPD on your side good things will happen, Jimbo

bpgt
bpgt

SEC fans just can't fathom the fact that their conference's run is over.  The powerhouse Mizzou won the East.  That is reason enough to justify it.  Vanderbilt is competitive now.  Alabama and LSU is all the SEC has now.  And those two are on the decline too.

DawginCO
DawginCO

I hate when coaches feel a need to talk  about how their conference is better than another conference.  When was the last time an SEC coach said the SEC was better than everybody else?  They don't.  Why?  Because the truth is self evident on field.  Disappointed in Jimbo.

CowbellHell
CowbellHell

@KitchenCalling Miss State and Ole Miss will both be top 20 teams this year dude, keep telling yourself the SEC is not the top conference and maybe it will become true.  In the meantime we will continue to dominate every other conference and you will continue to cry about it.

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@LEE3333 FSU outscored Auburn 31-10 going away in that game.  Had Craig and AU's coaching staff had not been stealing signals, the game wouldn't have been close.  Oh, and that Duke took Johnny Football and TAMU to the last seconds of that game. Don't sell Duke short.


How Auburn Stole the Signals --->>> http://floridastate.scout.com/2/1369812.html (Jason Staples)

OH-IO
OH-IO

@Chuck_UGA You are a coattail rider of your SEC! SEC! Daddy. Win something for once,

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Let's see if Bama is good enough to win the SEC. I predict they will not.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@LostGoat

They SHOULD--on paper. Bama SHOULD have last season--on paper. 

The NC bullseye is difficult to overcome.

And that "easy" schedule is significantly upgraded from last year's Ohio St-like slate of creampuffs.

gbal
gbal

@bpgt  Acc 3-5 in SEC head to head.... yep, won the big one... Congrats.... But SEC run is OVER,,, Don't think so,


3-5

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

What?! LMAO...you are out of your mind. I guess Georgia is declining too, no?! LOL.

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@DawginCO All Fisher hears is "FSU is built like an SEC team",,,over and over...he's tired of it.  No, FSU is built like the FSU of the 80's and 90's that finished in the top 4 for 14 straight years..

OH-IO
OH-IO

@DawginCO Another daily does of Coattail Riding, dog style.

HonestInformed
HonestInformed

@DawginCO  WHAT?????????? SEC coaches and the ESPN pundits CONSTANTLY claim and make bold statements that the SEC is the best NCAA football conference in the Nation......it is like brain-washing at this point!


SEC is very strong at the Top 3-4 teams and average (just like the ACC, BIG??, BIG??  PAC?? conferences) after the top 3 or so teams. For 0-15 years the SEC has implemented a stellar plan to schedule SUPER soft OOC games and only allow teams to schedule games against OOC teams they fully expect they can win. The Top 3-4 SEC teams usually play 1 tough OOC opponent, but they are dominant enough to win most of these games. This approach ensures the SEC football brand is untarnished and results in the highest poll rankings possible.


The problem: Over the past 4-5 seasons most of the other conferences have started to copy this approach.......it has become a competition to see who can create the EASIST schedule. Look at the Boise State, Ohio State, Michigan State, FSU, Oklahoma, etc. schedules over the past few seasons; what a joke. This is why I say games against teams ranked outside of the Top 100 should simply not be counted/considered for BCS or national championship play-off seeding!

DawgNole
DawgNole

@DawginCO

Absolutely SEC coaches say it, and well they should. It's true, after all. 

As I posted earlier, I wish Fisher would zip it; FSU opponents don't need any more incentive. In fairness to him as far as this interview, though, who knows what kinds of questions--if any--generated his response(s). 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@DawginCO Like somebody said, he is a Sabanite. He is just recruiting.

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@greenedefense @KitchenCalling No, they are not.  If so, the numbers would be closer to 50-50.  And who do the SEC teams play in the bowl games.  Non-SEC teams.  Keep on drinking the kool-aid.. 

OH-IO
OH-IO

@gtcaryd Now don't be a Coattail Rider. At least you won a NC more recently than the dogs. 1990? Nebraska. Does memory serve?

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@DawgNole @LostGoat the schedule is upgraded.  Don't forget FSU beat TWO SEC teams en route to the title.  And the team that beat a healthy UGA.

OH-IO
OH-IO

@DawgNole Are you referring to the Nov Classic vs. Charleston Southern?

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@DawgNole 

"Significantly upgraded" - that's certainly an understatement

FSU replaced Maryland (h) with Louisviille (a), Nevada (h) with OKState (n) and Idaho (h) with ND (h).  That is a heck of an upgrade.

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@HonestInformed @DawginCO FSU has played Oklahoma and Florida OOC recently.  This year, they've got Oklahoma St, Notre Dame and Florida OOC.  FSU has NEVER shied away from playing the big boys and Bowden built his reputation on that fact.  The CFA Kick-off tried to get UGA and FSU in '16...FSU said yes and UGA's AD say no, they want to support Athens.  Fact.

DawginCO
DawginCO

@DawgNole  They don't do direct comparisons.  What they say is things like " Well our conference is so tough top to bottom"  and thing like that.  They don't say " Well we are better than the Big 12" or "We are better than the ACC".  That is what I am talking about.  Can you infer from their comments that they think that the SEC is the best conference?  Yes but they don't beat their chest and o the direct comparison thing.

DawginCO
DawginCO

@GTBob  Sorry troll but the coaches don't, the fans do.  Name the last time you heard an SEC coach pull a " Well the SEC is better than every other conference out there" ?  You can't.  That is the point.  If you have tell everyone that you are the boss, you aren't.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@OH-IO @DawgNole

We're talking about FSU's schedule here--not UGA's. If you need further clarification, check out PaulinNH's post just above yours. He describes it quite succinctly.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@LostGoat @DawgNole @DawginCO

Many teams have talent and coaching. Smart coaches look for incentives to give their teams an edge. Happens every week of every season. 

Are you lost, Goat?

DawgNole
DawgNole

@DawginCO @DawgNole

So you've heard EVERY comment EVER made by an SEC coach about the strength of the conference? And you can announce here that they "don't do the direct comparison thing" because you warned them against it, right?

And of course it's safe to assume that you actually saw Fisher beating his chest during that interview.

KitchenCalling
KitchenCalling

@DawginCO @GTBob How many times do we hear SEC coaches say "we play SEC defenses, we play in the SEC, SEC speed, etc...etc......."

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